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permanent doing something about it. go to world ocean's day.org to find out what you did do and help participate in an event near you. at the very use, no more single-use plast ticks, not at the grocery store, no more straws. they're doing it in long beach island. there you go. i'm stephanie ruhle, i'll see you again at 11:00 a.m. with my partner and all day long on twitter. right now, more news with hallie jackson. >> to be honest you would koh have left it with vaughan. that could have been our good news. he's holding a root somewhere in a field, that made me happy. thank you, appreciate it '. i'm hallie jackson in washington. president trump is getting it all off his chest before he lands in quebec. frenemy territory as the president answers questions on everything from whether he's above the law to his pardon power to those fights with allies. as you take a live look at canada. what would get them to hug and makeup? better trade deals he argues. >> when it all straightens out,
we'll all be in love again. >> the president also offered his condolences to the families of anthony bore deign's family. word of soup support to one of his own top picks, epa leader scott pruitt. with the president braming the press for the cabinet member who's facing 15 investigations. the latdest reports he made his staff fetch prodean bars, greek yogurt, moisturizer from the ritz. and what the president has to say about it about the we have a lot of ground to cover. let me play for you some of the high lights of the president's lengthy remarks before he got on the chopper to head to canada this morning. listen. >> were you serious about really not needing to prepare for the kim jong-un summit? >> i didn't say that. i said i've been preparing all my life. i always believe many preparation, but i've been preparing all my life. >> is this going to be the g-6
plus one? >> maybe. you did call it anything you want. >> is this the end of the g-7? >> it doesn't matter what you call it. it used to be the ga because russia was in it and the g-7 which used tock the g-8, they threw russia out, they should let russia come back in. >> would there be more pardons? >> there will be more pardons. i'm thinking about mohamed ali. >> on the pardon power, do you believe you're above the lawa and that you could pardon yourself. >> no, i'm not above the law. i never want anyone to be above the law. i do have an absolute right to pardon myself, but i'll never have to do it because i don't anything wrong. we are looking at literally thousands of names of people that have come to our attention that have been treated unfairly or where their sentence is far too low. >> are you worried about the things that rudy is saying in israel? >> rudy's great but rudy is
rudy. but rudy is doing a very good job, actually. >> is a porn star --? >> he said what? >> he said a porn star is not respectable work. >> i'm not going to disagree with him on that. >> all right. well, that's a lot of headlines, peter alexander. it's a good thing you're tall because we saw half your face as you were talking with the president there out on the south lawn. i'm so glad you're with us because i want to did he briebr little bit. was that was not a formal news conference. you're screaming over the noise there, that said, it was a lengthy q&a session for this president, a lot of hid lines on everything from, as you heard, rudy giuliani to the department of justice, to leaks, to porn stars, to dennis rodman and mohame mohamed ali.
walk through what you got out of that moment. >> reporter: in terms of my positioning, i was standing on top of two ladders adjacent to me. >> this is pro tip, okay. >> that's how it works. let's focus on the significance of what he said today. the most important thing that the president said today as he heads up to the g-7 where there are already these tensions over topics like trade and iran is the president didn't suggest but called on the g-7 to reinstate russia to make it effectively the g-8 again. russia was expelled four years ago. that was significant. the president in his words said something to the effect why are we having this meeting if russia is not here? he said whether you like it or not, we have a world to run. he also, as the white house aides have now said, you've got to remind folks that i'm russia's worst nightmare. we'll let americans draw their own conclusions about the president's assessment of himself on that.
you he you heard his comments about rudy giuliani, rudy giuliani took a swipe at stormy daniels effectively saying being a porn star was not respectable work like other career women. the president said i'm not going to quibble with that, i'm not going to disagree with that assessment. there were a variety of other topics. melania trump roar his wife who we've only seen once in a public event now approaching several weeks, basically, since that surgery took place. he said that she has to stay here, cannot fly, that she's required by doctors to be here on doctor's orders because of what he described as a four-hour operation. that was significant. it raises more question about exactly what that surgical procedure was and the significance of just how bad her circumstances were that she required that surgery. we did go through a laundry list. the other points i would say just given the highlights this week rerated the philadelphia
eagles, the celebration of america, the president said he will not invite the golden state warriors or the cleveland cavaliers to the white house no matter who wins. but he appeared to try to make an outreach to the african-american community more broadly saying he would welcome america's athletes to reach out to him to indicate to him anybody they thought had been a victim of the justice department. obviously the whole basis of this movement, those athletes who had taken a knee, of course none of them were philadelphia eagles, was their desire to draw attention to express their first amend meant rights drawing attention to social injustice and police brutality among other things? i followed up and asked the president if he would invite those athletes to the white house for a roundtable. on that the president said he didn't think there was any need. he didn't believe in grandstanders. hall. >> i that is after, of course, peter said that they would ask the president about that, get back to you and he asked about that in the briefing this week. very quickly i want to go to
what you talked about at the top. the president saying russia's our worst nightmare, but g-8 let's bring russia back to the table here. that cannot, as we wait for the president to land in canada, we showed you that live shot at the top of the show, that cannot be sitting well with allies. he's walking into a -- lion's den. >> as you've been reporting the last 72 hours and weeks, this feud over tariffs and the president making it clear that the u.s. will be imposing stiff tariffs on allies like canada, mexico, and the eu. we heard from macron, from france, we heard also from trudeau from canada in the last 24 hours lash being out at the president. the president not backing down today. hallie. >> that's for sure. peter alexander, he next time i see you we will be in singapore. peter navarro is the director of
the national trade council. he's on the white house lawn. thank you very much for being with us. appreciate it. >> reporter: lovely day here in d.c. for the capitals and for the capitol. >> that's for sure. let me start here where peter left off because i want to talk about the g-7, some of the trade issues, but also what the president hinted at which was the idea of a g-8. why should russia be allowed back into these meetings after everything it's been accuse of doing, annexing crimea as we know did? >> reporter: -- >> so i'm the trade guy. i did tell you about the steel and aluminum tariffs and how tough the president son russia, the aluminum tariffs put one the biggest russia aluminum companies out of business. i think what i'd like to talk about is president -- >> we'll talk about those. but, peter, totally get it. g-7 is will have a lot of focus on trade. i know you're not foreign policy but i had to ask you the question. >> not my lane. you tried and i'm not -- i'm not dancing with you on that. >> let me ask you this, because
obviously the relationship with our allies you would agree is critical when it comes to negotiating trade policies, right? >> sure. i guess my -- >> why does the president seem to be tougher on vladimir putin or macron and angela merkel allies than putin? >> he is tough on putin. i think the expression here is with friends like these, what we've got are massive trade deficits. and what the president is doing is standing up for the working men and women in this country on the trade issue. and trade disputes are very different from the national security, geopolitics and all of that stuff that goes on. in the '80s we had strong disagreements on trade with japan, for example, but we were always able to work with them strategically in asia. but here's the thing. with friends like these, if you look at canada, for example, president tweeted correctly canada has 270% tariffs on dairy
that really hurts our dairy farmers in wisconsin. germany puts a tariff on our autos that's four times higher than the ones we charge on germany's autos. so germany sends us three cars for every one they send us. france gives air bus enormous subsidies at the bens of boeing and jobs in places like missouri. >> sure. >> but the punch line here is that with europe we run $150 billion trade deficit in goods every single year and for every $1 billion of deficit we run with europe, that's 6,000 jobs that are in europe instead of here. so all we're trying to do, hallie, all we're trying to do is having a level playing field for the american workers. >> i get that, peter, and i've heard the president say very similar things. let me ask you this. i don't have to tell you how unhappy those countries are with trudeau calling these tariffs insulting, unacceptable. merkel says they're illegal. you have macron saying we're not
doing this. is the potential payoff from negotiating bet trade deals worth ripping these aliengss apart in your deal? >> i don't think to use your words ripping these alliances apart is -- >> you don't think we're headed in that direction? >> what we have are leaders in these individual countries who are speaking to their own political base. but they fully acknowledge, they fully acknowledge that they're ripping this country off. and what this has done, what the president has done with the steel and aluminum tariffs, what he's done with the threat of auto tariffs, they're talking to us now. i'm telling you, six months ago they wouldn't even talk to us. so this is the way the president works. it's the art of the deal. these countries have been having a great deal. i mean, look, every year $800 billion goes overseas in terms of the trade deficit. that comes back with foreigners buying up this country. and president says, that's not going to happen anymore. >> let me ask you this i want to be cut into a little bit of a
lightning round because 2019 get all these topics. >> i'll try to keep up. >> g-7, does the president want to be there? >> well, i think the president is very, very focused on an issue which is far more important at this point in history, which is the singapore trip. >> so is that a no? >> that's why -- he's going, if he didn't want to be there, you know the president, he wouldn't go. >> but he's leaving early, right? >> well, he's leaving early but he has a very good reason because that trip, there's a lot riding on it not just for the american people and the north koreans, it's for the world because north korea, you know what the problem is there. >> three more quick questions on trade for you. the president said today if we don't get a deal on nafta we're going to cut nafta altogether and negotiate separate deals. i get that the president's point, your point has been that you'll get better deals eventually if you do kill nafta. if do you kill nafta there's huge concern that will hit farmers, carmakers.
in the interim. why aren't you more concerned about that? >> we're very concerned about that and i think this new move towards bilateral agreements with mexico and canada is really the way to go. it's something that the president wanted dodd ato do al along. we tried the three-way negotiation, multilateral negotiation. the problem with that is when you have two countries and us negotiating and they're two dissimilar countries like canada and mexico, it gets out of hand. we think that there's a great deal to be done with mexico alone and they did benefit just as much as we did. that's a solid relationship. >> i have two more questions for you, peter. thanks for being so patient. "new york times" says that there's an internal analysis showing that, in fact, tariffs will end up hurting the 60 economy, the new tariffs being put in place despite public statements from the president's economic advisers otherwise. does that internal analysis exist. >> fake news? >> that analysis doesn't exist? >> fake news. >> you're saying there nos
internal report on this? >> there's fake news. >> tell me, are you and steven mnuchin and larry kudlow 100% on the same page on trade? you can definitively say that you're all on the same page when it comes to the economic agenda with the president? >> i can say two things. one is that the president makes the decisions, there's no divisiveness among the team, only differing opinions. and the president loves hearing those differing opinions to make the best decisions possible. he's making zbrait great decisions right now. look at economy, it's off the charts and the american people are benefitting from that. >> you'll come back on the show? >> absolutely, love it. >> director of the national trade council. thank you for being with us. it's been a wild 15 minutes or so. i'm joined by the ambassador to china. it's good to have you on. and ap national security and foreign policy reporter josh letterman are here as well. it's a mouthful with you guys but i love it. ambassador, a quick round here had the what do you make with
what you just heard when it comes to trade and the president heading into the g-7 walking into the lion's den? >> well, i disagree with the administration on their approach to tariffs. certainly we have a lot of issues with our allies, especially europe. but we need them because we also -- we also have some overriding issues with china. and ex-posiimposing tariffs on and aluminum on our alwlies we're trying to zraets issue ad issue of china makes to sense. >> what does the president need to do today in canada? what does he need to do to repair these relationships or do you believe he's not interested in that? >> i don't think he is interested because he's imposing tariffs on our allies, on aluminum and steel, when supposedly we're concerned about the oversupply of steel and aluminum coming from china. under president obama, that flow of aluminum and steel has been dramatically reduced so why are we going after a canada,
germany, france, mexico, and others? >> ambassador gary locke, thank you very much for being with us. betsy and josh, i promise you'll get to speak in a second when we come back from the break because president trump now says he's looking at thr3,000 names for pardons. and the president says he supports the first amendment, but the fbi has now apparently seized a "new york times" reporters phone and e-mail records. how it ties into the crackdown on leaks and what it means for all of puts. lous, anthony bourdain has . we'll have more on that coming up. with expedia, you could book a flight, hotel, car, and activity all in one place.
. very interesting that they caught a leaker and a very important -- it's a very important leaker. so it's very interesting. i believe strongly in freedom of the press, i'm a big, big believer in freedom of the press. but i'm also a believer in classified information. has to remain classified. and that includes comey and his band of thieves who leaked classified information all over the place. so i'm a very big believer in freedom of the press, but i'm also a believer that you cannot leak classified information. >> that's president trump this morning talking leakers and talking tangentially about this
story, a long-time staffer on the senate intelligence committee who's due in court this morning. that's james wolf. he's walking as he has so often escorting witnesses for the senate intelligence committee. that's been his role for years. he's now been arrested and charged with lying to investigators about contacts with the reporters. and improperly handling sensitive committee material. nb's julia anne'sly is here to break down the story. i know you've been working this with some of our colleagues for days. wolf, it's my understanding, has not been charged with leaking classified information, right? yet at the same time the department of justice has taken what say rather extraordinary step of pulling records from a reporter as part of its investigation. what warranted that? >> yes, that was going to be my first point to you. james wolf was the security director at the senate intelligence committee so he should know official what information he did and cannot leak and he should know to hand
this will information very sensitively. what he was interviewed about was the mishandling of sensitive information, not classified information. what he did is that he lied to federal investigators about that. that is what is bringing him to court today. but just the information itself was not classified, and as we understand the way it was used was in a buzz feed article last year by watkins, and that article was about carter page being a -- meeting with a russian spy. that's something that carter page ended up confirming to buzz feed news. it did not seem like it was an explosive story or a story that could not have been done without that information. so it's interesting to see that of all the leaks to go after this is what they're focusing on and the statement that attorney general jeff sessions put out last night, he said they were almost making an example of this. i wanted to show that sensitive information should not be leaked to the press. but if you boil down to the information itself, it does seem
like they are taking a very big step here to go after information that was sensitive and not classified. >> julia anne'sly breaking that down. thank you for joining us. joining me here is greg bauer, assistant director for the congressional affairs at the fbi. betsy and josh are here. greg, talk tloi through, i want to play you senator richard blumenthal and what he had to say about the process the doj used to take these reporter's records. >> seizure of reporter's records have to be an ultimate last resort. other means of obtaining the information have to be explored first under these procedures. i want to know whether those standards and procedures were followed. >> what are the standards and procedures, greg, and do you believe the doj followed them in this instance? >> those are very good questions that should be asked and i'm confident that the department did follow the proper procedures. it's a multilayered set of protocols within department policies that require multiple
levels of approval, in some cases approval by the attorney general himself before certain techniques be used. >> you believe jeff sessions may have signed off on this going after the records? >> it's possible. i have no doubt that the -- this was fully vetted at the department, whether that included the attorney general or not depends upon the specific techniques used and what the protocols say in that regard. but i have to believe it was taken seriously by officials and the proper protocols were followed. >> you work there, betsy, you cover these men and women every day. i know when the story broke it's a little bit a chill that goes through. >> certainly. that's something that free press advocates have been saying loud and clear ever since the story first break yesterday evening. >> something they said during the obama administration when they tried to crack down on reporters. >> during the obama administration he went after more reporters than anyone combined. this is not covering new ground. part of the reason there's so
much concern over the particular seizure of alley watkins records is because she was not informed before those records were looked at. generally the way the rules are suppose tobds looked at at the do jrk, these were rules that went in place, the way that they're supposed to work is before the doj seizes or goes through a reporter's phone records they're supposed to let the reporter know that they're going to do that. that's my understanding. and according to the "new york times" record that's why that does d not happen in alli's case. >> this is rare instance in which the department of justice has done what the department of justice to do. he's been calling after sessions to go after leakers, sessions back in august talking doing that. he doesn't like sessions other than that, josh, it seems. then there's this issue as it relates to the department of justice putting together pardons for the president -- putting together a list of people like alice johnson who could be pardoned, not pardons for the president himself, to clarify. talk through when the president talked about the idea of
pardons, he was asked about this this morning. i want to play you a little bit of that and ask you about it on the other side. >> no, no, i'm not above the law. i never want anybody to be above the law. but the pardons are a very positive thing for a president. i think you see the way i'm using them. and, yes, i do have an absolute right to pardon myself, but i'll never have to do it because i didn't d didn't do anything wrong. i haven't even thought about it [ inaudible question ] >> i haven't thought -- i haven't thought about any of it. it's certainly far too early to be thinking about that. >> far too early he says to be pardoning paul manafort. he's in it deep. he's been in court for a long time. josh. >> that's right. now he's facing a deadline within the next 48 hours or so about how he's going to respond to the latest allegations. they seem to just be mounting against him as those who have traditionally been his allies seem to be abandoning him.
but, look, if the president wanted to put this whole issue to rest about how he could use his pardon authority to means that would, you know, really be problematic, he could have left it at no one's above the law and full stop. and instead every time he discusses this, he adds this part about but i have the absolute pardon power to pardon myself. that's what has so many folks on the hill and elsewhere in washington concerned that if push comes to shove, whether it be with mab abfor tnafort or th president himself, these are a signal that he has the power and i tends to use it when he needs to. >> greg, when you look broadly, you worked with these agents, you know this stuff. ask there thinking that's a red flag to you on what we've been reporting this morning? >> with respect to the pardons? >> or the doj story, going off watkins records or jim wolf here? >> with respect to the wolf indictment, let's be clear on that that this appears to be just an isolated incident of one staffer on one committee having lied to the fbi. >> although there has been a lot
of discussion about the house side and that intelligence committee as adam schiff talked about with nbc news last night that there were issues and dhaerns they have as well. >> that's a whole other story and i won't touch that today. but i think the wolf situation is isolated. that is not a senate intel committee problem other than it needs to obviously take a look at its protocols and pro says to make sure it doesn't happen again. it's not an fbi/doj problem. fbi discovered the facts surrounding the false statements by mr. wolf. so that was, i think, a specific situation specific to him. >> and yet you did also say that the doj should be asked some of these questions about the standards and procedures they fold, right? >> i'm sure that the first thing chairman bird and warren did when they were made aware of this problem was took an internal look at their policies and protocols within the procedure to make sure they minimized the chance of something like this happening again. >> was this a warning shot, betsy? >> i think so. this is a strong indicator this is the first major headline
grabbing leak investigation that's come out of the sessions justice department involving a reporter. and that sends the signal that they're willing to take steps that would be considered by many advocates to be extra order snaer to go after leakers. >> i'm going to ask both of you to stay where you are. greg, it's always a pleasure to have you on this show. we want to talk about some of the devastating news for a lot of folks this morning. anthony bourdain dead at the age of the 61. cnn has reported the host of the networks parts unknown program was found dead of an apparent suicide in his hotel room in france several hours ago. they were asked about this as the news was breaking just this morning. >> i think it's very sad. in fact, i want to extend to his family my heart felt condolences. that was very shocking when i woke up this morning, anthony bourdain is dead. and i enjoyed his show, he was quite a character. i will say. so i just want to extend my
condolences. and also to the family of kate spade. >> nbc's stephanie gosk is with me now. stephanie, i know you've been reporting out some of this. you can share what you know this morning? >> we know it was incredibly sad. we know his body was found by one of his friends, a french chef. they've been friends for decades. you know, this has stunned a lot of people, hallie, especially at the end of a week where we've already been talking about suicide and the fact that kate spade took her own life. and, you know, when you look at anthony bourdain and the arc of his life, it is remarkable. he started off as this chef, he then started writing books that were instant "new york times" best sellers, kitchen confidential, a lot of people read, had a big impact on me. i don't eat eggs benedict anymore because of it. >> same here. >> and even went on and had this incredible television career. and you know, lots of people do these travel logs where they go
to places and it's not a new format but yet somehow he reinvented it and he reinvented it through food, through his thoughtfulness, and through this incredible ability. and you being in television as well, you know his effortlessness with which he spoke to everyone. he was this incredible interviewer. so it didn't matter if it was president obama or a 5-year-old kid on the street in cambodia, he spoke to them exactly the same. and it was an enormously endearing quality of his. hallie. >> and we're watching him, i remember that when he went former president obama on that overseas trip and the two of them had dinner together. i know colleagues of nine used to work in the white house were there in the travel pool with bourdain and former president obama, as you see that video there. and he had a lot of friends. he had so many friends. and some of them are talking this morning. they're coming out and not just sharing their memories of bourdain, but also telling people, get help. it's okay, there are places to
get help, right? >> yeah. that's right. obviously there's an outpouring on social media and a lot of people saying, look, suicide contagion say real thing and it's something that's been proved out in studies over and over again that they're vulnerable at times when a lot of attention is being put on suicide, the vulnerable can be even then more vulnerable. that's why it's important to look out for the people that you care about. it's important to look out for yourself and to talk about it with friends and family if you are feeling vulnerable. hall. >> i stephanie, i appreciate you joining us there. i want to bring in dr. gail salts, a doctor. dr. salts, thank you for being on with us. stephanie talked about the outpouring of love and support for anthony bourdain's family. one of those tweets comes from brian krans ston who says when it comes to bourdain it illustrates that success is not immune to depression.
we all need to be more aware of our friends who are suffering. so what did people do? what are the warning signs and what should people do if they thinker that loved one might be struggling? >> actually if they think their loved one is struggling, they should absolutely ask. they should ask whether they're suffering, whether they feel blue? how blue? but really when it comes to suicide, if you have any inkling, you need to ask directly. i think it's a myth that people often believe i shouldn't say anything about suicide because i might suggest it. and that is simply untrue. you should ask someone if they have thoughts of harming themselves. if they say yes then you should ask them if they have a means or plan of harming themselves. if they say yes, which often they do, you should take away the means in the moment. you should stay with them, be with them and if need be take them to an emergency room. you did absolutely save a life. there are various hallmark red flags, let's say, in terms of suicide if someone is
increasingly isolating themselves, feeling intense pain in the form of hopelessness and helplessness and worthlessness, something that us kas sha-- caun is a spark. as you brought up, copy cats do happen and particularly in the wake of this week where two people who people think they have it all commit suicide, you have to be concerned about people in general because the numbers have gone up dramatically in the last couple of years. and this is really a national crisis at that point. it's more deaths than people die in car accidents. and the opioid epidemic. so we have to be tuned to the fact that if you're suffering depression there is a real possibility and you need to seek treatment. unfortunate unfortunately stigma keeps many people from seeking treatment for themselves. >> we have to talk about it and
talk to each other. i appreciate you joining us here. we've been showing at the bottom of your screen the national suicide prevention lifeline but let's say it. it's 1-800-273-talk. 1-800, 273-8255. that number is out on my twitter and social media pages as well. it's important. coming up lafrt on in the show, president trump touches down in capd this morning it's a ditch kind of summit on the other side of the world. but former preparations for his meeting with president kim jong-un may not be in the plans. why he says he's already ready.
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[ inaudible question ] i? >> i would only do a deal if i get it through conzbles we are just three days away from that historic summit where president trump and north korean dictator kim jong-un are set to meet and greet this morning. president trump said he's been, quote, preparing all my life. joining us on set, michael allen, former special assistant to george w. bush at the national security council. betsy and josh are back with me as well. michael, so, we got the president talking about north korea yet again today. you saw secretary mike pompeo sort of walk back that the president wasn't preparing. he said i've been briefing him, i'm briefing him all the time since he first started inside this administration. and he's also dangling this prospect of a white house summit if things go well. good idea? bad idea.
>> that's a big dangle to deliver a white house meeting. by the way, kim jong-un may not want to come to the white house. he could risk a real coupe if he comes all the way to the united states. but the president's build built-up expectations for a successful if not terribly substantive summit performance this weekend, he says this going to get along. it's about attitude. >> right. >> but i'm not so sure whether they're going to create a peace treaty or mechanism or a process for the future. >> what about this idea of expectations, denuclearization? do expectations meet where the president has set them, betsy? >> this has always been the problem with negotiators trying to work with north korea. any time an american administration tries to sit down with the koreans or the south koreans, the question always ultimately comes to how much foreign interference are the north koreans going to be willing to accept for their nuclear program? how many inspectors? how much oversight? how much involvement on the part
of the u.n. to make sure that north korea is actually rolling back its nuclear program. that's always been the hurdle and there's no evidence thus far that that hurdle is any closer to being overcome. >> you're on a flight at 6:00 a.m. tomorrow, i'm on a flight right of a get offset here. what are you watching for most closely when it did toums thcom summit? >> i want to see it turn into a substantive summit where they talk about technical aspects that betsy was talking about. the sequencesy of when does sanctions relief happen compared to when do they actually dismantle their nuclear program or whether it turns into more of a meet and greet, get to know you big diplay of look at these huge leaders coming together. >> what's interesting to me is how closely two people who will not be in singapore will be watching this, which is president putin and xi jinping
of china. how much is this going to affect their geopolitical relationships? are they just live streaming this into their snaufrs that's an interesting dynamic here? >> you saw sergey lavrov go there recently and say don't forget we're here. and xi jinping required kim jong-un to come down to china and visit with him to say, listen, we're in your neighborhood, don't get too kpieltd about yo excited about your relationship with the united states. i am worried about the sanctions enforcers, which is hey, you know what? if peace is breaking doubt do i ne -- out, do i need to go extra hard to break the pressure campaign? >> when you look at the president's cirque rrl there' a president's circle, he talks to a lot of people. rudy giuliani, the president's outside lawyer set to handle issues of the special council
talked about kim jong-un and he got a slap back from mike pompeo. here it is. >> kim jong-un got back on his hands and knees and begged for it. which is exactly the position you want to put him in. >> i know rudy. rudy doesn't speak for the administration when it comes to this negotiation and that set of issues. >> troubling to you that rudy giuliani is talking about this or do you think it's a hot mess, who cares? >> troubling if the president's trying to discipline his team and to achieve a foreign policy objective to have one of your chief guys running out there and talk about extraneous issues is not helpful to what pompeo is trying to pull off. >> josh. >> if there nez foreign policy issue where somebody popping off has the potential to upend it all is north korea. we saw the summit was canceled when the president was unhappy about the way north korea was talking about the united states. >> yeah. >> so this is not the u.s. sitting down with, you know, germany in the say volatile situation. >> that's like the understatement of a century,
yes. >> you don't know how something like this could potentially create a whole lot of havoc. >> bets, final thoughts. >> i think it's important to the president's self-conception that this work. the president has been running up with so many problems with deal making over the course in time in office. this is the biggest, best chance he has to show that he's still got it when it comes to the art of the deal, and that's part of the reason i think he's putting so much pressure on the people around him going into the summit. >> come back. coming up next, just when you thought you heard it all, new details about scott pruitt and how his staffers are reportedly spending their time on the job. wait till you hear what the president had to say about how scott pruitt is spending taxpayer money. spoiler, greek yogurt. that's next. your plaques are always there at the worst times. constantly interrupting you with itching, burning and stinging. being this uncomfortable is unacceptable.
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which some of our closest allies have turned into frenemies. their furious about the new tariffs trump has placed on steel and aluminum. they have tried to convince the president to change his mind, to no avail. there's been reporting that the president kind of doesn't even want to go because he's thinking about what's going to happen four days from now which is a different summit, the one in singapore. he will be heading there tomorrow. as you see air force one pulling up. as we talk about all of this, we have some new reaction from a european diplomat about the idea that russia should abi part of this meeting with the very always been clear we should engage with russia when innocence our interests. but we need to remember why g 8 became the g-7. going on to tell tus is not appropriate for russia to rejoin until we see it behave responsibly. putin should get nothing for free. you bet this is going to come up at the g-7 with angela merkel, trudeau at a bit of a war of
words with trump. the two of them kind of had a bromance. seems like that isn't quite so broey anymore. we're watching and waiting to see president trump walk out of air force one. he's going to come out, give some waves, my colleague kristen welker is in canada. we're all getting ready to head to singapore in a little bit. i want to bring in josh and betsy and new guest, mark slid up onset. betsy's colleague at the daily beast. let's talk through, josh, the risks and the rewards for the g7. it seems like there's a lot of one and not a lot of the other. >> for trump there's not a whole lot of reward at this point. it doesn't seem like he's going to be able to leave this having achieved much or improved his standing, certainly the fact that he's leaving early before the summit has ended is going to be the take away message for the european countries for canada and others who seem to think that the president is just not
showing up for this. >> i think one thing that's really important here is just the extent to which the president is not focussed on this summit. the president, all his staff, everyone in the white house he's been working with is single mindedly zeroed in on north korea. this is an aftermath. >> kristen welker is on the ground in canada. you've e-commerced yourself in the study of the g7 for days and days now. and the president's remarks this morning seem to indicate that he's ready to go in fighting talking russia and about the possibility of making it the g 8 again? >> he's been escalating his war of words with some of his closest allies. you're right. and then the remarkable comments on the south lawn calling for russia to be reinstated in the g7, making it the g8 again. diplomats pushing back saying russia hasn't in any way met
what the other world leaders have been asking it to do. remember, this all happened because russia annexed crimea. that is still the case. they're essentially saying no way. president trump saying look, we have to deal with the reality. we have to deal with russia. that will be one of the big issues here today. but tariffs is going to be another huge topic. of course president trump as well as the prime minister of canada. the president of france who the president had a big bromance with throwing bitter barbs throughout the morning. all of that is going to be at the forefront. i want to underscore something that one of your panelists just said which is north korea. the president really focussed on that right now. i spoke with a senior administration official who said look, the reason why he wants to leave the g7 summit a little bit early is so he can get to singapore and get to pussed on
his preparations for north korea. that is what we'll be tracking. at the end of these international summits they all sign sort of a joint agreement, commitment. >> it's not -- >> it's not even going to happen. the communique is we've been talking about whether or not we're going to see it. a lot of skepticism about whether they can come to an agreement on language. >> i want to play a little bit as we wait for the president to walk down the steps of air force one. step onto canadian soil. what he said before he got on the plane about the idea of tariffs and where this whole thing goes. >> we have massive trade deficits with almost every country. we will straighten that out. and i'll tell you what. it's what i do. it won't even be hard. and in the end we'll all get along, but they understand, and you know, they're trying to act like, well, we fought with you in the war. they don't mention the fact that
they have trade barriers against our farmers. they don't mention the fact that they're charging almost 300% tariffs when it all straightens out, we'll all be in love again. >> i know you're not in the business of predictions. if the president wants to have everybody be in love again, it seems like he's got to make concessions on this tariffs issue, at least according to his allies. >> reporter: it seems that way, but hallie, i wouldn't anticipate we're going to see any real from gresz -- progress conclusion of the summit. i think there may be some concessions from the u.s., but based on where things are heading and the negotiations over nafta which seem to have all but broken down, it doesn't seem as though they'll be able to get on the same page any time soon. i don't have that crystal ball. maybe you'll see some type of a miracle happen, but president trump has been talking about this since he was a candidate on
the campaign trail. he's basically saying look, i am doing what i said i was going to do. he's getting fierce pushback, though. this is the g7 summit right now. a lot of people are saying this year it looks a whole lot more like the g 6 summit with the united states isolated not only on the issue of tariffs but also on the issue of iran. a lot of the leaders here took exception to the fact that he pulled out of the iran nuclear deal and also the paris climate accord. it's dividing what used to be the united states from some of the closest allies. >> stand by, kristen welker. if you had a crystal ball, i'd like to know where you've been hiding it. it hasn't been in the white house booth. we actually brought another guest onto talk about what's the area of expertise, some of the reported misbehavior or questionable spending by scott pruitt and the tasks he's
assigned his people to do. i'm going to ask you for an analys analysis. you know the ins and outs domestically of what's happening with the president as we goes on the overseas trip. >> one thing about the clip of the president defending his trade actions, you didn't hear him mention national security. you've seen a lot of pushback on -- for instance, marco rubio tweeted out yesterday, there is a much stronger national security rationale for keeping sanctions in place against this chinese firm zte hthan for imposing tariffs on steel and aluminum. that was the reason for the comments from the president. getting pushback from congressional republicans informal you'll see domestic opposition. >> popping into my e-mail as we wait for donald trump to step out of air force one and greet
folks here for the g7, canadian official, this is a new statement we're just getting in says the prime minister, and our sherpa have stated publicly we do not support russia returning to the table as long as they continue to illegally occupy crimea, and here is president trump now walking out on what looks look a little bit of a windy day in québec. and josh, he is going to step off this plane. he's going to come down the stairs and shake hands with folks and shake hands with justin trudeau. they're going to say what -- russia, really? >> and the next question he's going to face is about sanctions. because the long-standing position has been look, we put the sanctions in place on russia in response to the annexing of crimea. they don't come off until that ends. that's a position that did stay consistent between the end of the obama administration into the trump administration so far. now, today that the president is talking about okay we should put russia back in the g8 without letting go of crimea is going to immediately raise questions
about what the sanctions that we kept on russia will be continued by president trump or whether he's considering changes to that too. >> betsy, we know that melania trump, typically in some of these moments we might see the first lady. she's not traveling with the president today. she did last year part of a longer trip. she's not going to singapore. we learned this morning the reason for that is because according to the president her doctors have said the first lady cannot fly for a month because of the hospitalization for a kidney procedure that happened a few weeks back. the president solo greeting folks here on the tarmac. after this he's heading to the site of the g7 summit. kristen welker is near the site. betty, we talked about tariffs and the russia factor, the tariff factor and the russia factor. realistically, what could the president accomplish here or is the bar that's been set get out unscathed without making a mess?
>> i think it's possible we'll find some way to have conversations about tariffs that could be productive. although it's hard to speculate as to what it might end up looking like. the reality is we seem to be lurching in the direction of a trade war with eu nations as their tariffs. the president and his aides may try to keep from punishing american industries and slow them down because of the because of the way the united states put tariffs out. it remains to be seen if they can accomplish anything on that front. >> i appreciate you all being here with us as we take a look now at the president on the tarmac in québec landing for the g7. ali velshi and stephanie rule are hanging out in a minute. this is canada and tariffs. it's everything that you love to talk about. >> yeah. so this is -- this is really important. when you think about europe putting about $3.5 million in tariffs tariffs on that much.
canada almost $13 billion worth of goods. this is the lifeline for canada and they're really mad about this. and this reference to russia joining the g7, christian free l lfreeland. she's on a banned list. the former minister of canada can't travel to russia. canada putting out a strong statement saying not interested. as long as russia is in crimea, no seat at the table for them. >> it's also confusing the president on the south lawn i'm going to go there and get nafta down. how is he going to do that at the g7 when mexico is not one of the seven nations? >> we're going to continue the conversation. have a good morning and afternoon, hallie. i'm ali velshi. >> i'm stephanie ruhle. it's friday, june 8th. let's try to get a little smarter. >> we're going to deal with the unfair trade practices. if you look at the european io